F/S - FBM Prima w/ enrobing belt; guitar cutter - Virginia
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Have you sold your Prima yet?
Have you sold your Prima yet?
3d print the positive and seal with an epoxy resin. Then make the negative using food safe silicone. I tried using 3d printed abs as a test run for personal use. Cleaning it was a nightmare and heating and cooling warped it. Not to mention the potential bacteria growth in-between poolry sealed layers. It's much easier, faster and more reliable to print a positive, have a low infil and then do what I said. If you have a very soft silicone it's even better since you can get away with having a single piece mould rather than a two piece. The key is 100000% in the prep of the positive. If you rush it or use the wrong resin to seal it you end up with the lines transfering into your moulds and then chocolate.
By sealing I mean sealing the ridges of each layer. Anotjer option I've explored is vacum forming using APET Plastic. It's food grade and usually comes around 5mm thick so it's dead durable. But it's expensive and requires a beefy vac former.
I came across Cooler King and am trying to understand it. It seems to be a product, good for 3 months, you place inside your refrigerator? But it appears to be a service business as much as a product, is it similar to getting bottle water service? I figure if that is the case the chance that we have that as an option in Montana is not great. I will look at the other one you mentioned.
As to sourcing the refrigeration options, I would be happy to take a look.
Thank you!
The major issue is managing humidity if there is a temperature difference between the room and the cooler.
There are static options.
One is Cooler King from PolarFresh:
http://www.polarfresh.com
Another is HumiClear:
http://humiclear.com
The great thing about static systems is that you can retrofit them to any existing cabinet (e.g., wine fridge).
However, if you are interested in a new cooling solution with built-in humidity control, the fridges from Everlasting are very good and I can source them for you.
There are a bunch of options on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_8?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=humidity+gauge
I would put one inside the refrigerator and get one for the room. I would not get a dual-zone system if it is wired. Which one? I have not used any of these so I don't have specific recommendations. However, there are many inexpensive options so the risk is low.
I use these and they are perfect.
I also use a wine fridge (actually I current have 2), but you need to find one that is able to maintain a consistent temperature. The first one I had fluctuated so badly that it couldn't really be used for chocolate OR wine.
One more edit: the humidity is surprisingly high in both fridges but I guess because the temp is higher than a normal fridge its not such an issue.
My spouse does some home brewing. Looking at his equipment options he says there is a dehumidifier of some type that he thinks could be used with the refrigerator. I need to look at that to understand how it works.
I like the wine cooler idea. Hilliard Cooling Cabinet-I have contemplated getting one but the capacity seems so low that I hesitate to put the money into something that seems like such a short time fix. Are they the only ones who have modified an AC motor to use in a cabinet/fridge like set up?
I'm making chocolate dipped caramels and Pate De Fruit but humidity is always a problem in the summer. I'm thinking of having a box built like a Hillards cooling cabinet but instead of an AC it would be hooked up to a dehumidifier. The intake would be on the inside of the box and would vent out. The room itself is cool so I don't see the need to use an AC.
Thoughts? Would this even work?
Just realized you're enrobing chocolates. If you can find a way to go from the fridge to room temperature, with something in between like a wine cooler,that might work.
My local home depot has thermometer/humidity monitors or about $15. I have to run a dehumidifier in the summer here non stop, more than the AC, and even then I get some condensation sometimes.
Switching to a Hillards cooling cabinet instead of a fridge will also help because the temperature of the molds won't be so low as to cause condensation.
One trick I learned after using the firdge/freezer to get stuck chocolates out: wrap the mold in plastic wrap so it's airtight. If there's no air, there's no condensation.
- Clay
Thanks so much for that i've had a really hard look and read through it! I appreciate you keeping it simple for me too!
Thaanks alot!
There are a bunch of options on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_8?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=humidity+gauge
I would put one inside the refrigerator and get one for the room. I would not get a dual-zone system if it is wired. Which one? I have not used any of these so I don't have specific recommendations. However, there are many inexpensive options so the risk is low.
I am going to have to get something. Recommendations?
I am looking for something like the Chocovision 3ZRev or ChocoTT/mini enrober. We need to increase capacity but to the industrial size just yet.
Located in southern MN (near IA) but with shipping connections throughout US.
Do you have some way to measure the humidity inside the fridge and inside the room? There's moisture somewhere that's condensing on the surface of the product - caused by temperature differential / dew point.
Cacoa Noel-brand black cocoa powder in 3 pound tubs. They might have a larger size. Contact Paris Gourmet.
Blommer offers a black cocoa powder. Call them and find out who sells in your area.
http://www.blommer.com/products-cocoa-powders.php
As I work on recipes at home I use a regular refrigerator for my product which is enrobed with chocolate. After taking the enrobed product out, there was slight sweating. I checked the room temp and it read 73-74F. I turned on the house a/c and had temp at 66-68, sweat disappeared. Aesthetically it looks fine but upon touch there is a graininess there and likely with a magnifying glass I am guessing it wouldn't look as smooth. Is it the humidity in the refrigerator that starts the problem or what is it that I need to understand and what are the remedies? Thanks
Hi Clay,
I am looking for 25 lbs at time. I am in Montana
garfoid -
In order to get chocolate to set properly (snap and sheen) it needs to be tempered to promote the formation of the right crystal structure.
Hand tempering is a skill that needs to be learned - a process that takes time and practice and not necessarily something that someone who is just making a few of something once a year (or lifetime) wants to master.
One option is to use a compound - a "chocolate" where cocoa butter is replaced by another fat, called a cocoa butter equivalent (or CBE) or cocoa butter replacement (CBR). These fats have higher melting points and are solid at room temperature and they don't need tempering. They are often sold as candy melts.
However, if you are using real chocolate and don't have the patience or skill to temper, then adding some wax to the chocolate will force it to harden in an acceptable way when it cools.
I took a look through CFR 21. to see if there were any applications where paraffin could be used on a label without disclosing it and I don't see one. There are persistent claims that paraffin is added to cheap chocolates on a regular basis, and don't need to be disclosed because they can be listed as "other flavors" and I don't see that in the regulations regarding paraffin as a food additive.
How much are you looking for and where are you located?
If you copy and paste the URL into your browser (rather than clicking on it) it will come up.
Paraffin was commonly used in home made chocolates when I was a kid to avoid tempering - it is not used in chocolate these days.
Thanks for the reply Kerry, what would you say to people who claim that it is in cheaper chocolate bars, especially in hotter climates?
Paraffin was commonly used in home made chocolates when I was a kid to avoid tempering - it is not used in chocolate these days.
Subscribed on Pocket Casts! Thanks so much for this! It's great!
Maybe its stupid, but a low tech solution would be a brick you've kept in an oven at a low temperature over night, then turn the oven off, leaving the brick in there and it should maintain a warm temperature without getting too hot?
Hey guys!
I'm just curious as to what parafin wax does. Obviously being a wax, it helps the chocolate to set, well kinda 'forces' it to set around the wax molecules, giving it a higher melting point.
Is wax common in mass chocolate production? I can't find any manufacturer with an ingredient as 'wax' but there are so many claims, I just want to understand why.
Any help is appreciated!
Cheers!
Gareth
Hey! I'm a Brit currently living in Turkey, although i'll be returning home soon to start my business there!
I own a novelty chocolate company, the details are super secret right now, but once we're launching i'll announce it here!
I love designing my own moulds on Fusion 360, 3D printing them and casting them with food safe silicone! I'll be asking lots of questions so its a good start to introduce myself!
Can I ask you, would the refiner work for making but butters, so you think? If so, I would be interested. You can email me at Christy @ christysconfections .com (no spaces)
Sorry, total for the tall dark green boxes is 100 boxes/1 case.
If you're still invested, please send your email address to christine.neococoa@gmail.com and I'll send you a PayPal invoice. Thanks!
Hi everyone!
We have a very lightly used Packint destoner for sale. Purchased at $9000 and we are asking $7000. See photos below and feel free to email annie@dandelionchocolate.com with any questions!
I would like to get all the TALL Dark green.
Would you check your inventory on the quantity so we know for sure?
thanks
100 - $12.00 UPS
400 - 30.00 UPS
(UPS was half the price of USPS.)
the email i got didnt have the photos. so thank you.
what is shipping for green box tall to zip 33134?
100 and then all 400?
thanks
I will buy it, Kristian. Will email you.
interested in your larger boxes. the large green one, is it the medium green color. it looks like you have 3 different colored green ones.
In the larger size, 3.5 x 3.5 x 1.5, I have 400 boxes that are dark green and 100 light green.
The other green box is the smaller size, 3.5 x 3.5 x 7/8.
interested in your larger boxes. the large green one, is it the medium green color. it looks like you have 3 different colored green ones.
Lightly used Krebs LM3 hotCHOC Heated Chocolate Spray Gun for sale.
$200 + shipping
kristian (at) nuttyness (dot) com
Hi Jonas,
Thank you for replying. Yes, a 40lb one could work. Please send me the details to: cisalass@gmail.com
Thank you!
Cristina
Thanks so much for all those ideas.
I use a restaurant food warmer with a roll top lid that I've hacked in a fan and temperature control. You can see it here:
Other possibilities are food warming cabinets, bread proofers, or dehydrators.